It seems crystal clear that the new regulations over clinics that perform abortion are unconstitutional - they impose rules over the clinics that even hospitals and surgical centers aren't subject to for more invasive procedures.
As expected, somebody has sued over them and we'll find out.
A woman's right to chose suffered a real onslaught last year, with an anti-abortion Gov. now in place. The state even has limits on private insurers ability to cover abortion. The anti-abortion crowd, most of them, are government conservatives expect when it comes to this topic they want government all over the place
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I love how your title says "Abortion regs illegal" but in the body it says we will have to wait and see if they are deemed illegal.
Your liberal bias really shines when you say things like "A woman's right to choose (not chose) suffered a real onslaught last year..."
I think the rights of millions of babies to live their lives has been under an onslaught for far too long, and the right of a mother to murder them so she won't miss a rock concert or have to sit out a rodeo season is the least of my concerns. (Those were reasons given by Tiller for performing late term abortions when Sebelius was in office and he had free reign) Only in a world this far gone would we allow such barbarism and call it "a woman's right to choose". She can "choose" to keep her legs closed, or she can "choose" to give her baby up for adoption, or she can "choose" to be a mother. No one should be allowed to "choose" to be a murderer.
Why is it that if a pregnant woman is murdered, the perpetrator is charged with two murders (the mother and child), but if the mother murders her baby it's perfectly legal. Human life is only worthwhile if the parent wants it?
Abortion murders...the fetus may be thankful for illegalities...
I was adopted at birth. I'm glad my mother wasn't as liberal with her politics as she was with her maidenhood.
The Lord speaking to Cain after Cain had murdered his brother Abel: (Genesis 4:10) And the LORD said, “What have you done? The voice of your brother’s blood is crying to me from the ground.
Cain was judged very harshly for killing one person.
If the blood of one man got God's attention, you can bet millions of babies have as well.
If that amount of blood doesn't make you sick to your stomach, the judgement due will.
Reading Phil Kline's recent article on how much Sebelius, Morrison and Six stood in his way when he tried to stop Tiller from carrying out illegal late term abortions makes me sick.
http://www.renewamerica.com/columns/kline/110621
If Kline had been allowed to prosecute Tiller for his crimes, Tiller would most likely be alive today. Ironically, Tiller's blood is on the hands of the people who defended him from legal prosecution.
Wow there are some really crazy people on here. People quoting fairy tales (BIBLE), talking about CHOICES, but not choosing to mind their business. People making issues about right vs. left when the issue is about individuals. One bill doesn't fit all. It's not a secret that the mission of this governor is anti-abortion legislation.
The problem is the Dems did such a horrible job fixing the Repub mess that there is now a second wave of increased numbers of republicans and they are gonna start having their way with legislation. Using the horrible economy as a talking point to get into office and once they are in; they start doing anti-abortion legislation and morality policing. Dang near have to take a drug test to voluntarily participate in society these days. Its gonna get worse til someone has the pebbles to say enough! BS is what I say and they arent doing snot about the economy. I think things would be alot better if people could mind their own business.
Furthermore;
Leave God out of issues of LEGALITY. If the conversation is about MORALITY fine your justified but not in LEGALITY. get it?
I mean think about it. Really how much credibility do you have if you cite the Bible or God as your source of truths. BWAHAHAHA LOL LMFFAO!! Doctors/Lawyers/Credible People have to cite credible sources to be taken seriously so get a clue. Not a laughing matter that Religious people can't even gain credibility with other religous poeple by citing God as their source. hence Jews, Muslims, and Christians who all use God or a book as their source. Now that is funny!
STOP CENCORSHIP: FREEDOM OF SPEECH
Furthermore;
Leave God out of issues of LEGALITY. If the conversation is about MORALITY fine your justified but not in LEGALITY. get it?
STOP CENCORSHIP: FREEDOM OF SPEECH
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Gee, did you read what you just wrote?
I think Freedom of Speech allows them to say what they want - including about the Bible and GOD!
It might just be their basis for morality comes from the Bible and God! (Your's might too you just don't realize it!)
I believe someone said somewhere else that morality comes from or is taught to us by our Parents!
So, What if your Parents believe in God? (Even if your Government doesn't?)
12:04 said :"People making issues about right vs. left when the issue is about individuals."
Very true. It is about the millions of "individuals" murdered in the name of poor-choice. Murders legalized by your democratic brethren.
I am not a religious man, but I am a moral man, and I know murder when I see it.
Killing a child because you don't wish to grow up and accept responsibility is morally reprehensible. And what Tiller was doing was illegal.
I love how you say it is not a right or left issue, and then start putting down the republicans. lol Kinda like how you say FREEDOM OF SPEECH and then make fun of others using it to speak their mind. Both of those are text book examples of hypocrisy. That makes you a hypocrite.
OK regarding the FREEDOM OF SPEECH STOP CENSORSHIP thing; I intended to use that more of a call sign if you will, like (MAVERICK, GOOSE, etc..). I get censored every now and then cause I say things people don't like to hear and I am sick of this PC nation we've turned into. It was supposed to be identified after my rant not as part of my rant.
None the less:
1) You are correct: I shouldn't say freedom of speech yada yada yada if that doesn't include religious fanatics being able to spout out intolerance and GOD stuff of the sorts. However I did say something about being CREDIBLE and how citing GOD or RELIGIOUS TEXT as your "source of truths" is NOT credible. Not even amongst religious people. Remember I laughed at ALL religious people (Jews Christians, Muslims etc.) They all cite God, and religious text yet still disagree on almost everything. LOL! NO CREDIBILITY amongst the religious population. So therefore what I am saying is I find it very difficult to have a legitimate debate with someone who isn't really bringing much to the table in the way of reality and facts. There are people who want, deserve, and seek real answers.
um, um, um, um, Cause God said so. Is not an answer (or a truth). If God really did say so Then Who's God said it?
Get it!
So YES you do have the freedom of speech but why would you speak if you knew what you were saying had no value. Think before you speak is what I was always told.
2) I am not a Democrat I think both parties are full of crap and much hypocrisy. They want whats best for their re-elections and their businesses. Don't want to say names but his initials were George W. Bush (LOL) and many more cronies!
3) I don't think abortion is moral either, but it is legal so get over it or MIND YOUR BUSINESS. This includes DR. Tiller. LEGAL! (NOT MORAL) just LEGAL
4) It was a whack job Christian who truly committed murder by killing Tiller. Furthermore I would like to point out that Christians and religious wackos may just be responsible for more murders/ deaths than almost any other group of people I can think of. Ever heard of the Holy Wars, how bout Salem Witch trials. Christians/ religious fanatics never mention this as a downside to their beliefs. You know; KILLING others for disagreeing with them! ha ha ha Absolved from taking any responsibility cause they believe they are given the moral high ground, (just and only as a result) simply because they believe in "God." Same apllies to their God as he gets credit when things are good but who has to take the responsibility when things are bad. Hmm we give that to the DEVIL, he's so awful. (sarcasm of course)
5) I never have/ never will/ can't have an abortion so don't assume I am dodging resposibility just cause I speak out for CHOICE! I like to speak for Male reproductive rights as well. I don't necessarily equate Choice with abortion either. Choice can mean keep your child and choose not to take welfare.
Pro Lifers please CHOOSE to be 16, uneducated, unmarried. Have your child. Just also choose to leave my income alone. I as an adult, who is educated, and will be married (someday) would like to use all of my hard earned income to ensure that I can successfully provide for a family someday. One built from resposible decision making. To the FULL potential. Now those are real CHOICES.
STOP CENCORSHIP: (just a handle)
HOMOS DON'T RUIN MARRIAGE; DIVORCEES DO: (is that a better handle?)
Well, it's obvious that I am arguing with an intellectual virtuoso, so let me say again...
A. I agree with you about religion.
B. What Tiller was doing was ILLEGAL late term abortions! Read the article I posted.
C. Abortion is paid for in many cases by our tax dollars, so that flies in the face of your wish to not support single mothers. It's okay to support the killing of innocent babies, but not to help a mother buy food for those babies? Could this country be any more backwards?
D. Minding my business does not include staying silent while innocents die. If you and I were in line at the grocery store, and a madman came in shooting, I would not step aside and let you be murdered either.
E. If Tiller had been convicted of the crimes he was committing, the religious nutjob who was in the courtroom for the sentencing (again, read the article) would not have felt abandoned by the legal system, and would not have felt like he had no other option than to kill Tiller in his church. Am I agreeing that it was the right thing to do? No! Am I glad he is dead? ....
yep :)
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