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Wednesday, September 2, 2009
Elections change?
I like Steve Archer's point in this story" about primary elections generating more interest among voters. The $1,000 cost doesn't seem too great for stirring public involvement.
6 comments:
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My question is do you research anything before you give an opinion. People respect you and for the most part your media. But many times you simply seem to quote the opinions of the city staff as fact or as a direction that we should all agree with. We am not looking for a repeater
My question to 6:08- Are you being pissy because this is a wise choice in this specific case? I don't think David Allen has a hand up his butt by any means- he's certainly disagreed with them on more than one occasion - I too agree with Archer. Its a shame people don't get off their butts and vote more, but I think that this is a special case. People in this community are going to be more involved than ever choosing the new commmission. Of course Dottie thinks its unnecessary- its pretty evident that she will be leaving after this term.
Notice that the ruels for local elections changed between the 2007 and 2009 elections. We have had only one election.
The rules were changed at the request of the League of Kansas Municipailities because a significant majority of cities had complained that local elections, in general, and local primary elections especially, drew notoriously low voter turnout.
There has been no quantifable change in candidate interest in the first election (spring 2009) since the rules changed.
AC in particualr had 7 candidates run under the old rules in 2007. In 2009, there were 8 or 9. Seems that candidate participation was not adversely impacted.
You would have to review the county electioneers office records to compare voter turnout. Again, most local professionals argue that the single most influential factor to local election participation and voter turnout is the unpredictable winter weather in Kansas.
An ice storm can knock voter turnout into the dumps. To further complicate things, when winter has been harsh, an early visit by spring can turn potential voter's minds to more leisurely things rather than voting.
If it's raining, the die hard voters trod out anyway. Second to weather, local election participation and voter turnout is stimulated by a volatile local issue.
In Ac's case, the TIF issue drove 2009. In 2007, it was proabbly something like the proposed ban on residential parking in the grass.
Personal attacks! when you lack substance one can always have personal attacks. Rather than state your case or respect anyone elses observation, you have choosen to take this from a mature discussion to the being a bully who yells louder. Yelling louder doesn't make you right.
As far a agreeing with Archer he never said anything about people not getting out to vote in fact he stated that people do vote and voting in a primary gets them more involved.
"but I think this is a special case" To what are you speaking when you say this is a special case? The commission was looking at whether to stay with the current state laws or not. All but one of the commissioners had questions. It was tabled by the mayor. But lets not let facts get in the way of your story, please continue.....
Whatever happened to parking in the grass? I thought they were going to clean up Summit by making people park in their driveways. Can we get this started again?
6 comments:
My question is do you research anything before you give an opinion. People respect you and for the most part your media. But many times you simply seem to quote the opinions of the city staff as fact or as a direction that we should all agree with. We am not looking for a repeater
My question to 6:08- Are you being pissy because this is a wise choice in this specific case? I don't think David Allen has a hand up his butt by any means- he's certainly disagreed with them on more than one occasion - I too agree with Archer. Its a shame people don't get off their butts and vote more, but I think that this is a special case. People in this community are going to be more involved than ever choosing the new commmission. Of course Dottie thinks its unnecessary- its pretty evident that she will be leaving after this term.
Notice that the ruels for local elections changed between the 2007 and 2009 elections. We have had only one election.
The rules were changed at the request of the League of Kansas Municipailities because a significant majority of cities had complained that local elections, in general, and local primary elections especially, drew notoriously low voter turnout.
There has been no quantifable change in candidate interest in the first election (spring 2009) since the rules changed.
AC in particualr had 7 candidates run under the old rules in 2007. In 2009, there were 8 or 9. Seems that candidate participation was not adversely impacted.
You would have to review the county electioneers office records to compare voter turnout. Again, most local professionals argue that the single most influential factor to local election participation and voter turnout is the unpredictable winter weather in Kansas.
An ice storm can knock voter turnout into the dumps. To further complicate things, when winter has been harsh, an early visit by spring can turn potential voter's minds to more leisurely things rather than voting.
If it's raining, the die hard voters trod out anyway. Second to weather, local election participation and voter turnout is stimulated by a volatile local issue.
In Ac's case, the TIF issue drove 2009. In 2007, it was proabbly something like the proposed ban on residential parking in the grass.
Personal attacks! when you lack substance one can always have personal attacks. Rather than state your case or respect anyone elses observation, you have choosen to take this from a mature discussion to the being a bully who yells louder. Yelling louder doesn't make you right.
As far a agreeing with Archer he never said anything about people not getting out to vote in fact he stated that people do vote and voting in a primary gets them more involved.
"but I think this is a special case" To what are you speaking when you say this is a special case? The commission was looking at whether to stay with the current state laws or not. All but one of the commissioners had questions. It was tabled by the mayor. But lets not let facts get in the way of your story, please continue.....
to 10:39 Thank you! Thank You!
Whatever happened to parking in the grass? I thought they were going to clean up Summit by making people park in their driveways. Can we get this started again?
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